# No midi device detected and midi track audio output on both Flatpack and Installer versions of zrythm
**URL:** https://forum.zrythm.org/t/no-midi-device-detected-and-midi-track-audio-output-on-both-flatpack-and-installer-versions-of-zrythm/241
**Category:** Technical Support
**Tags:** flatpak, release
**Created:** [March 29, 2025, 4:41pm UTC](https://forum.zrythm.org/t/no-midi-device-detected-and-midi-track-audio-output-on-both-flatpack-and-installer-versions-of-zrythm/241 "2025-03-29T16:41:20Z")
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### Author:  [@Birbdotexe](https://forum.zrythm.org/u/Birbdotexe)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2025, 4:41pm UTC](https://forum.zrythm.org/t/no-midi-device-detected-and-midi-track-audio-output-on-both-flatpack-and-installer-versions-of-zrythm/241/1 "2025-03-29T16:41:20Z")
Major Midi bug making the software unusable.
On the Flatpack version of Zrythm my MIDI device wouldn’t be detected at all, regardless of the audio back-end i ran and settings i chose, I don’t know if this is related but when I go to select an audio output for my midi tracks no devices show up, this means ALL my midi tracks cant play audio, basically turning the software into a really fancy sampler.
What is interesting, is that on the version i installed via the install script (_ver: v19dfba8_) would let me use ALSA on the midi section and when i rebooted zrythm i could see my MpK mini 3 and select it, still no option to select midi audio output though.
whats even more interesting, when i load up qpwgraph there seems to be no compatible output
for midi, so i cant even manually patch in the audio output. (this is for both versions)
_Flatpack version (1.0.0) having no way to patch in MIDI output._
_note the install script version (v19dfba8) lets me use ALSA whereas the flatpack ver wont._
– Debug information: _Flatpack_ –
NAME=GNOME
VERSION=“47 (Flatpak runtime)”
VERSION\_ID=47
ID=org.gnome.Platform
ID\_LIKE=org.freedesktop.platform
PRETTY\_NAME=“GNOME 47 (Flatpak runtime)”
HOME\_URL=“h ttps://www.gnome.org/”
XDG\_SESSION\_TYPE=wayland
XDG\_CURRENT\_DESKTOP=KDE
DESKTOP\_SESSION=plasma
Carla version: 2.6.0-alpha1
GTK version: 4.16.12
libadwaita version: 1.6.4
libpanel version: 1.8.1
– Debug information: _install.sh_ –
VERSION=“24.04.1 LTS”
ID=tuxedo
ID\_LIKE=“ubuntu debian”
PRETTY\_NAME=“TUXEDO OS”
VERSION\_ID=“24.04”
HOME\_URL=“h ttps://tuxedocomputers.com/”
SUPPORT\_URL=“h ttps://support.tuxedocomputers.com/”
BUG\_REPORT\_URL=“h ttps://gitlab.com/tuxedocomputers/development/tuxedo\_os/os”
PRIVACY\_POLICY\_URL=“h ttps://www.tuxedocomputers.com/en/Privacy-policy.tuxedo”
VERSION\_CODENAME=noble
UBUNTU\_CODENAME=noble
XDG\_SESSION\_TYPE=wayland
XDG\_CURRENT\_DESKTOP=KDE
DESKTOP\_SESSION=plasma
Carla version: 2.6.0-alpha1
GTK version: 4.16.2
libadwaita version: 1.6.0
libpanel version: 1.6.0
gimme a shout and Id be happy to share more info if you need!
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### Author:  [@alex](https://forum.zrythm.org/u/alex)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2025, 5:47am UTC](https://forum.zrythm.org/t/no-midi-device-detected-and-midi-track-audio-output-on-both-flatpack-and-installer-versions-of-zrythm/241/2 "2025-04-05T05:47:22Z")
I would have to look into the device issue but MIDI tracks do not have audio output by design. You’re looking for an [Instrument track](https://manual.zrythm.org/en/tracks/track-types.html#instrument-track).
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### Author:  [@Birbdotexe](https://forum.zrythm.org/u/Birbdotexe)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2025, 5:30am UTC](https://forum.zrythm.org/t/no-midi-device-detected-and-midi-track-audio-output-on-both-flatpack-and-installer-versions-of-zrythm/241/3 "2025-04-06T05:30:32Z")
Ahh, my apologies for the confusion, I feared I wasn’t reading things correctly and that seems to be the case. I Wish I could provide some data on why my midi device isn’t being detected but I fear I might say things with lack of proper knowledge, Like I did in the post…
sob